Rudy Giuliani, President Donald Trump’s lawyer, sought to make clear on Monday what he was speaking about when he informed NBC Information’ Chuck Todd on Sunday that “reality is not reality.”

“My assertion was not meant as a pontification on ethical theology however one referring to the scenario the place two individuals make exactly contradictory statements, the traditional ‘he mentioned, she mentioned’ puzzle. Typically additional inquiry can reveal the reality different instances it would not,” Giuliani mentioned on Twitter.

Giuliani made the puzzling comment on “Meet the Press,” the place he sparred with Todd over the dangers of letting the president sit down with particular counsel Robert Mueller.

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U.S. President Donald Trump listens to former New York Metropolis Mayor Rudy Giuliani throughout a gathering with cyber safety specialists within the Roosevelt Room of the White Home in Washington, U.S., January 31, 2017. REUTERS/Kevin Lamarque

U.S. President Donald Trump listens to former New York Metropolis Mayor Rudy Giuliani throughout a gathering with cyber safety specialists within the Roosevelt Room of the White Home in Washington, U.S., January 31, 2017. REUTERS/Kevin Lamarque TPX IMAGES OF THE DAY

U.S. President-elect Donald Trump stands with former New York Metropolis Mayor Rudolph Giuliani earlier than their assembly at Trump Nationwide Golf Membership in Bedminster, New Jersey, U.S., November 20, 2016. REUTERS/Mike Segar

U.S. President-elect Donald Trump stands with former New York Metropolis Mayor Rudolph Giuliani earlier than their assembly at Trump Nationwide Golf Membership in Bedminster, New Jersey, U.S., November 20, 2016. REUTERS/Mike Segar TPX IMAGES OF THE DAY

U.S. President-elect Donald Trump greets former New York Metropolis Mayor Rudolph Giuliani earlier than their assembly at Trump Nationwide Golf Membership in Bedminster, New Jersey, U.S., November 20, 2016. REUTERS/Mike Segar

Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani shakes palms with Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump at a marketing campaign rally in Charlotte, North Carolina, U.S., August 18, 2016. REUTERS/Carlo Allegri

Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani and Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump arrive to talk to police gathered at Fraternal Order of Police lodge throughout a marketing campaign occasion in Statesville, North Carolina, U.S., August 18, 2016. REUTERS/Carlo Allegri

Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump embraces former New York Metropolis Mayor Rudolf Giuliani at a marketing campaign rally in Greenville, North Carolina, U.S., September 6, 2016. REUTERS/Mike Segar

U.S. Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump (R) and former New York Metropolis Mayor Rudy Giuliani (2nd L) arrive for ceremonies to mark the 15th anniversary of the September 11 assaults on the Nationwide 9/11 Memorial in New York, New York, United States September 11, 2016. REUTERS/Brian Snyder

Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump walks with former New York Metropolis Mayor Rudolph Giuliani (L) and his son Eric Trumo (R) by way of the brand new Trump Worldwide Resort in Washington, D.C., U.S., September 16, 2016. REUTERS/Mike Segar

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Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani shakes palms with Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump at a marketing campaign rally in Charlotte, North Carolina, U.S., August 18, 2016. REUTERS/Carlo Allegri

Republican U.S. presidential nominee Donald Trump and former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani go to the Milwaukee County Warfare Memorial Heart in Milwaukee, Wisconsin August 16, 2016. REUTERS/Eric Thayer

Republican U.S. presidential nominee Donald Trump talks with Milwaukee County Sheriff David Clarke Jr. (L) and former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani (R) on the Milwaukee County Warfare Memorial Heart in Milwaukee, Wisconsin August 16, 2016. REUTERS/Eric Thayer

Republican U.S. presidential nominee Donald Trump greets former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani throughout a marketing campaign rally at Crown Area in Fayetteville, North Carolina August 9, 2016. REUTERS/Eric Thayer

Republican U.S. presidential nominee Donald Trump and former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani go to Allegra Print and Imaging in Fayetteville, North Carolina, U.S., August 9, 2016. REUTERS/Eric Thayer

Republican U.S. presidential nominee Donald Trump and former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani go to Allegra Print and Imaging in Fayetteville, North Carolina August 9, 2016. REUTERS/Eric Thayer

Republican U.S. presidential nominee Donald Trump and former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani go to Allegra Print and Imaging in Fayetteville, North Carolina, U.S., August 9, 2016. REUTERS/Eric Thayer

Former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani greets Republican U.S. presidential nominee Donald Trump on the Trask Coliseum at College of North Carolina in Wilmington, North Carolina, U.S., August 9, 2016. REUTERS/Eric Thayer

Former New York Metropolis Mayor Rudy Guiliani sits together with his spouse Judith (R) and Donald Trump Jr. on the Republican Nationwide Conference in Cleveland, Ohio, U.S. July 18, 2016. REUTERS/Jim Younger

Former New York Metropolis Mayor Rudy Giuliani (L), Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump (C) and New Jersey Governor Chris Christie (R) stand collectively throughout a memorial service on the Nationwide 9/11 Memorial September 11, 2016 in New York.
The USA on Sunday commemorated the 15th anniversary of the 9/11 assaults. / AFP / Bryan R. Smith (Photograph credit score ought to learn BRYAN R. SMITH/AFP/Getty Pictures)

NEW YORK, NY – SEPTEMBER 11: Republican presidental nominee Donald Trump (R) and former New York Metropolis mayor Rudy Giuliani (L) arrive at September 11 Commemoration Ceremony on the Nationwide September 11 Memorial & Museum on September 11, 2016 in New York Metropolis. Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump attended the September 11 Commemoration Ceremony. (Photograph by Justin Sullivan/Getty Pictures)

NEW YORK, NY – SEPTEMBER 11: Republican presidental nominee Donald Trump (C) and former New York Metropolis mayor Rudy Giuliani arrive at September 11 Commemoration Ceremony on the Nationwide September 11 Memorial & Museum on September 11, 2016 in New York Metropolis. Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump attended the September 11 Commemoration Ceremony. (Photograph by Justin Sullivan/Getty Pictures)

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Former New York Metropolis mayor Rudy Giuliani introduces Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump earlier than a rally on the Travis County Exposition Heart on August 23, 2016 in Austin, Texas. / AFP / SUZANNE CORDEIRO (Photograph credit score ought to learn SUZANNE CORDEIRO/AFP/Getty Pictures)

Former Mayor of New York Metropolis Rudy Giuliani greets Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump simply after introducing him at a rally on the Florida State Fairgrounds in Tampa, Florida, on Wednesday, August 24, 2016. (Photograph by Loren Elliott/Tampa Bay Instances/Getty Pictures)

Former New York Metropolis mayor Rudy Giuliani, left, welcomes Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump on stage throughout a marketing campaign rally on August 18, 2016, on the Charlotte Conference Heart in Charlotte, N.C. (Jeff Siner/Charlotte Observer/TNS through Getty Pictures)

BRIARCLIFF MANOR, NY – JULY 14: (L-R) Donald Trump, Joe Torre, Ali Torre, Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg, Rudolph W. Giuliani and Billy Crystal attend the 2008 Joe Torre Protected at House Basis Golf Basic at Trump Nationwide Golf Membership on July 14, 2008 in Briarcliff Manor, New York. (Photograph by Rick Odell/Getty Pictures)

BRIARCLIFF MANOR, NY – JULY 14: (L-R) Rudolph W. Giuliani, Donald Trump, Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg, Invoice Clinton, Joe Torre, and Billy Crystal attend the 2008 Joe Torre Protected at House Basis Golf Basic at Trump Nationwide Golf Membership on July 14, 2008 in Briarcliff Manor, New York. (Photograph by Rick Odell/Getty Pictures)

UNITED STATES – MAY 04: Mayor Rudy Giuliani and Donald Trump at information convention on the GM Constructing, the place CBS introduced that Bryant Gumbel would be the host of its new morning information program, ‘This Morning.’ Present, to be launched Nov. 1, will broadcast from Trump’s Worldwide Plaza Constructing., (Photograph by Andrew Savulich/NY Each day Information Archive through Getty Pictures)

UNITED STATES – MAY 04: Mayor Rudy Giuliani is flanked by CBS President Leslie Moonves (left) and Donald Trump at information convention on the GM Constructing, the place CBS introduced that Bryant Gumbel would be the host of its new morning information program, ‘This Morning.’ Present, to be launched Nov. 1, will broadcast from Trump’s Worldwide Plaza Constructing., (Photograph by Andrew Savulich/NY Each day Information Archive through Getty Pictures)

UNITED STATES – MAY 04: Mayor Rudy Giuliani and Donald Trump at information convention on the GM Constructing, the place CBS introduced that Bryant Gumbel would be the host of its new morning information program, ‘This Morning.’ Present, to be launched Nov. 1, will broadcast from Trump’s Worldwide Plaza Constructing., (Photograph by Andrew Savulich/NY Each day Information Archive through Getty Pictures)

UNITED STATES – MAY 04: Mayor Rudy Giuliani considers a query as Donald Trump seems on at information convention on the GM Constructing, the place CBS introduced that Bryant Gumbel would be the host of its new morning information program, ‘This Morning.’ Present, to be launched Nov. 1, will broadcast from Trump’s Worldwide Plaza Constructing., (Photograph by Andrew Savulich/NY Each day Information Archive through Getty Pictures)

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NEW YORK, UNITED STATES: This 13 September 1999 file picture reveals New York Metropolis Mayor Rudy Giuliani (L) with Donald Trump (R) through the NYC2000 vogue present in New York Metropolis. Trump introduced 07 October that he plans to type an exploratory committee to assist him resolve whether or not to hunt the Reform Social gathering nomination for president. (Photograph credit score ought to learn MATT CAMPBELL/AFP/Getty Pictures)

NEW YORK, UNITED STATES: New York Metropolis Mayor Rudy Giuliani (L) jokes with Donald Trump (R) as they take a stroll down the runway through the NYC2000 vogue present in Instances Sq. 13 September, 1999, in New York Metropolis. The present which featured greater than 90 clothes designs in addition to a efficiency by singer Trisha Yearwood was held along with the Seventh on Sixth Trend Week Spring 2000 Collections. AFP PHOTO Matt CAMPBELL (Photograph credit score ought to learn MATT CAMPBELL/AFP/Getty Pictures)

BRONX, NY – OCTOBER 15: Actual property magnate Donald Trump talks with former New York Metropolis mayor Rudy Giuliani whereas present mayor Michael Bloomberg (far R) eats popcorn earlier than the beginning of sport 6 of the American League Championship Sequence between the Yankees and Boston Crimson Sox on October 15, 2003 at Yankee Stadium within the Bronx, New York. (Photograph by Ezra Shaw/Getty Pictures)




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“Look, I’m not going to be rushed into having [Donald Trump] testify in order that he will get trapped into perjury. And whenever you inform me that, you already know, he ought to testify as a result of he’ll inform the reality and he should not fear, properly that is so foolish as a result of it is any individual’s model of the reality. Not the reality. He did not have a, a dialog — ” Giuliani started.

“Fact is reality,” Todd interjected, to which Giuliani retorted, “No, it is not reality. Fact is not reality.”

Giuliani, the previous mayor of New York Metropolis, appeared to know he had stumbled into uncomfortable territory.

“That is going to develop into a foul meme,” Todd mentioned.

“Do not do, do not do that to me,” Giuliani mentioned.

The comment immediately made headlines, nonetheless, and was seized on by information reveals and commentators alike.

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